Comments on: faith and politics http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/faith-and-politics/ loving mercy, seeking justice, walking humbly Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:28:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: the meaning of life « beauty and depravity http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/faith-and-politics/#comment-18236 the meaning of life « beauty and depravity Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:53:43 +0000 http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/?p=698#comment-18236 [...] I wrestle with how I handle my “influence” as the lead pastor of a church. While I will discuss topics and issues, I decided elections ago not to directly endorse a specific candidate - especially behind the [...] [...] I wrestle with how I handle my “influence” as the lead pastor of a church. While I will discuss topics and issues, I decided elections ago not to directly endorse a specific candidate - especially behind the [...]

]]> By: my expert and random thoughts about tina fey, the presidential and vp candidates « beauty and depravity http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/faith-and-politics/#comment-17525 my expert and random thoughts about tina fey, the presidential and vp candidates « beauty and depravity Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:54:54 +0000 http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/?p=698#comment-17525 [...] from this old post: POLITICS IS NOT THE ANSWER. Rather, it is not THE answer. Politics is a process, structure and [...] [...] from this old post: POLITICS IS NOT THE ANSWER. Rather, it is not THE answer. Politics is a process, structure and [...]

]]> By: how to subscribe to blog « beauty and depravity http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/faith-and-politics/#comment-15840 how to subscribe to blog « beauty and depravity Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:41:13 +0000 http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/?p=698#comment-15840 [...] God Politics blog, an article written for the Seattle Post Intelligencer, and blog mentions in the Seattle Times, indirectly in Huffington Post and the Stranger’s Slog.  And of course, I’m hoping [...] [...] God Politics blog, an article written for the Seattle Post Intelligencer, and blog mentions in the Seattle Times, indirectly in Huffington Post and the Stranger’s Slog.  And of course, I’m hoping [...]

]]> By: obama vs mccain for president « beauty and depravity http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/faith-and-politics/#comment-15298 obama vs mccain for president « beauty and depravity Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:23:15 +0000 http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/?p=698#comment-15298 [...] on so many counts.  Just remember that while the politics is important, it is not the answer: POLITICS IS NOT THE ANSWER. Rather, it is not THE answer. Politics is a process, structure and medium by which we can do much [...] [...] on so many counts.  Just remember that while the politics is important, it is not the answer: POLITICS IS NOT THE ANSWER. Rather, it is not THE answer. Politics is a process, structure and medium by which we can do much [...]

]]> By: Bret http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/faith-and-politics/#comment-14807 Bret Wed, 21 May 2008 13:34:29 +0000 http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/?p=698#comment-14807 Ryan: Your welcome. I think use your usgae of the word endorsement provides a false assumption, I would prefer allowance....Christ allowed executions, he neither endorsed or attacked capital punishment of criminals. He attacked "murder" of innocents...and there is a clear distinction between murder and killing. Killing is defended in the bible. The bible supports the death penalty (killing) as I have noted with scripture references in the OT. I guess I would ask for your take on these scriptures (Num, Lev.) If we are allowing for the death penalty, how are we not modeling ourselves after Christ, since he allowed for the death penalty (even in close proximity)? Romans 13:1-2 says, "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God." Capital punishment is lawful in our country (depends on where you live I guess). As for incarnation, we may have a difference of view, I am unsure what yours is. Mine simply put, is that Jesus is both fully God and fully man, in hypostatic union (John 8:58, Phil 2:5-8, Exo 3:14). Jesus was born of Mary, fulfilling the Law of God (John 8:29) all the way to death (Phil 2:8). He is fully divine and fully human. Jesus not only prays to His Father in heaven, but is prayed to and worshipped: Acts 7:55, 1 Cor 1:1: Matt 2:2, 14:32, John 9:35, (respectively). I am interested in your view as it related to the matter of God incarnate and how it affects capital punishement Ryan:

Your welcome. I think use your usgae of the word endorsement provides a false assumption, I would prefer allowance….Christ allowed executions, he neither endorsed or attacked capital punishment of criminals. He attacked “murder” of innocents…and there is a clear distinction between murder and killing. Killing is defended in the bible.

The bible supports the death penalty (killing) as I have noted with scripture references in the OT. I guess I would ask for your take on these scriptures (Num, Lev.)

If we are allowing for the death penalty, how are we not modeling ourselves after Christ, since he allowed for the death penalty (even in close proximity)?

Romans 13:1-2 says, “Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.” Capital punishment is lawful in our country (depends on where you live I guess).

As for incarnation, we may have a difference of view, I am unsure what yours is. Mine simply put, is that Jesus is both fully God and fully man, in hypostatic union (John 8:58, Phil 2:5-8, Exo 3:14). Jesus was born of Mary, fulfilling the Law of God (John 8:29) all the way to death (Phil 2:8). He is fully divine and fully human.

Jesus not only prays to His Father in heaven, but is prayed to and worshipped: Acts 7:55, 1 Cor 1:1: Matt 2:2, 14:32, John 9:35, (respectively).

I am interested in your view as it related to the matter of God incarnate and how it affects capital punishement

]]> By: Bret http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/faith-and-politics/#comment-14806 Bret Wed, 21 May 2008 13:33:27 +0000 http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/?p=698#comment-14806 Ryan: Your welcome. I think use your usgae of the word endorsement provides a false assumption, I would prefer allowance....Christ allowed executions, he neither endorsed or attacked capital punishment of criminals. He attacked "murder" of innocents...and there is a clear distinction between murder and killing. Killing is defended in the bible. The bible supports the death penalty (killing) as I have noted with scripture references in the OT. I guess I would ask for your take on these scriptures (Num, Lev.) If we are allowing for the death penalty, how are we not modeling ourselves after Christ, since he allowed for the death penalty (even in close proximity)? Romans 13:1-2 says, "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God." Capital punishment is lawful in our country (depends on where you live I guess). As for incarnation, we may have a difference of view, I am unsure what yours is. Mine simply put, is that Jesus is both fully God and fully man, in hypostatic union (John 8:58, Phil 2:5-8, Exo 3:14). Jesus was born of Mary, fulfilling the Law of God (John 8:29) all the way to death (Phil 2:8). He is fully divine and fully human. Jesus not only prays to His Father in heaven, but is prayed to and worshipped: Acts 7:55, 1 Cor 1:1: Matt 2:2, 14:32, John 9:35, (respectively). I am interested in your view as it related to the matter of God incarnate. Ryan:

Your welcome. I think use your usgae of the word endorsement provides a false assumption, I would prefer allowance….Christ allowed executions, he neither endorsed or attacked capital punishment of criminals. He attacked “murder” of innocents…and there is a clear distinction between murder and killing. Killing is defended in the bible.

The bible supports the death penalty (killing) as I have noted with scripture references in the OT. I guess I would ask for your take on these scriptures (Num, Lev.)

If we are allowing for the death penalty, how are we not modeling ourselves after Christ, since he allowed for the death penalty (even in close proximity)?

Romans 13:1-2 says, “Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.” Capital punishment is lawful in our country (depends on where you live I guess).

As for incarnation, we may have a difference of view, I am unsure what yours is. Mine simply put, is that Jesus is both fully God and fully man, in hypostatic union (John 8:58, Phil 2:5-8, Exo 3:14). Jesus was born of Mary, fulfilling the Law of God (John 8:29) all the way to death (Phil 2:8). He is fully divine and fully human.

Jesus not only prays to His Father in heaven, but is prayed to and worshipped: Acts 7:55, 1 Cor 1:1: Matt 2:2, 14:32, John 9:35, (respectively).

I am interested in your view as it related to the matter of God incarnate.

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